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An Open Letter in Defense of Deltopia

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April 3, 2014 at 5:00 am

To the students that reside in Isla Vista:

What makes UC Santa Barbara and Santa Barbara City College such incredible places to study is the synergy of receiving a world-class education, with world-class scenery, in the midst of a world-class social scene. We have relinquished many of the things that we treasured and have allowed for the constant infringement upon our various rights and the self-proclaimed “right to party.” But, there is a threshold. Do not forget the student activism that has taken place within this community over the course of its inception.

I, as the author of this letter, encourage Isla Vista Residents to remain steadfast in your commitment to express yourselves in however you deem sufficient, whilst upholding appropriate safety precautions that are needed to ensure the wellbeing of others. Furthermore, the “out-of-towners” that are negatively spoken of during conversations regarding Isla Vista are invited by us into our community. Because of this, we need to exercise greater influence on who we solicit to come to I.V. or at the very least, what we allow them to do while they are here. They will eventually leave, but it is the Isla Vista community that ultimately pays the price for their actions, largely by way of the police exercising militant force.

Deltopia does not have an official day (unlike Halloween); it is not set in stone. Because of this, students should think of creative ways to out-maneuver law enforcement in this game of cat and mouse. If Deltopia gets ruined this weekend then have it again the following weekend, or better yet, have Floatopia. I assure you, the urge to rage will long outlast the budget of Santa Barbara to keep sending in large numbers of police. It should be noted that 85 percent of complaints received about noise, music and disturbing the peace are called in by law enforcement themselves, in order to “justify” the dissolution of social gatherings in Isla Vista.

They treat the UC students as if they didn’t have to work hard to get here, and they treat the CC students like they’ll never amount to anything of substance. Contrarily, SBCC and UCSB are beacons of the educational process in their own respects. We work very hard and deserve the freedom to relieve stress in a celebratory manner with likeminded individuals. COME ON I.V.! We pay tens of thousands of dollars to sit in overcrowded classrooms, pay overpriced rent, get harassed by law enforcement and have the various administrations and authoritative bodies bully and patronize us. Do not let this community turn into a police state. They can do only to us what we let them do.

To the Administrations of UCSB and SBCC, Isla Vista Foot Patrol and all other entities invested in the suppression of social gatherings within Isla Vista:

I am pleading with you, as the author of this letter, to not underestimate the efficacy and resolve of the 20-30 thousand students residing in Isla Vista. Everyone agrees that we would like Isla Vista to be safe. However, we will not allow it to be a pyrrhic victory. When UCSB and SBCC want to coax us into acquiescing to their interests then they leverage every resource and network to reach us. Yet, when there are meetings, votes and changes to the laws that govern our day to day lives, we are kept in the dark and silenced.

The young adults that live in Isla Vista do not wish to be governed in a way that lightly channels neo-fascism. We have some of the brightest minds in the country within our zip code, why not try to work with us rather than against us? After the burning down of Embarcadero Hall (formerly known as Bank of America), thousands of incidents of police brutality and the tensions between residents and enforcers, you should welcome the idea. Holding open office hours (IVPD) only works for people who have an ideology that is in line with that of the policing authority in I.V. Dissenters have been arrested, brutally beaten and even slaughtered (R.I.P. Kevin Moran). So I’m certain you understand our reluctance to trust you, although we would like to. There should be greater dialogue between those that would like to take away the social aspect of Isla Vista altogether and those that wish to preserve it. Deltopia is more than just college kids partying; Deltopia is ONE DAY that signifies the final stretch of a hard years work through the expression of dance and the amplification of community. Imposing stricter noise ordinances to virtually not allow any music is very heavy handed.

The I.V. community should not resent the presence of law enforcement, however, we are left with no choice. College, in an abstract sense, is supposed to support the varied manifestations of expression, not the preclusion of it. We would gladly like to work with the enforcement arms of the UC System, such as IVFP and UCPD to establish some middle ground with regards to Deltopia, Halloween and the social scene in its entirety. We are entitled to seats at the table, especially when the discussions directly affect us. Yet, it would seem that you are more invested in the abuse of college kids in the name of safety, than working with us educated students on effective safety measures that we do not have to side step.

TO ALL WHO HAVE READ THUS FAR:

This is a letter not only in defense of Deltopia, but also in the defense of preserving a social scene that has evolved over the years. This is a letter encouraging students to critically think about what they are willing to relinquish and what they are willing to fight for. Partying may be the focus of this letter at its face, but partying is not the focus of this letter in terms of its content. Think of what we pay, what we receive and what we are entitled to. Likewise, to those lobbied against the students, you should definitively decide how much animosity, brutality and prejudice you are going to harbor and exert on the students who call this place home.

This is an open letter from an author named “Isla Vista.”

A version of this article appeared in the Thursday, April 3, 2014 print edition of the Daily Nexus.
Views expressed on the Opinion page do not necessarily reflect those of the Daily Nexus or UCSB. Opinions are primarily submitted by students.
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Anonymous
Anonymous
12 years ago
Anonymous
Anonymous
12 years ago

Local law enforcement agencies should zealously enforce the public’s
right to use the beach, rather than harass people. Law enforcement officials including
sheriff’s deputies should be educated about the public’s right of access to the beach.

yup
yup
12 years ago

Yup. You said itself… you’re entitled. Apparently you deserve something because you’re in school (though but not smart enough to recognize things called… laws). You’re pissing away your education while people working ten times harder than you can’t even get into this school. I think you should have some respect for yourself and actually earn something instead of just feeling entitled to it. Other people wish they were so lucky.

Really?
Really?
12 years ago
Reply to  yup

The police who are cracking skulls aren’t smart enough to get into school. IQ’s over 100 are generally removed from eligibility for police work. You should consider that fact in your world view.

Duck Dodger
Duck Dodger
12 years ago
Reply to  Really?

Hey kid, you do realize that the average cop out there today has a college degree, right? And unlike you loser college kids, they have JOBS. So please don’t talk about things like “world views” when you’re still living on mommy and daddy’s dime and know nothing of the world.

g
g
12 years ago
Reply to  Duck Dodger

I get your point, but the academic standards of the criminal justice department at xyz city college ain’t exactly Harvard, or even Arizona state…

nog
nog
12 years ago
Reply to  g

And your argument is weak. Bill Gates and Mark Z don’t have a degree. Your point was?

Attilashrugs
12 years ago
Reply to  g

g, my what a smarmy and snide piece of work you are. “the academic standards of the criminal justice department at xyz city college ain’t exactly Harvard, or even Arizona state…”
Academic standards? You mean the sons and daughters of the Elitists are entitled? What was or is your major? “Climate Engineering”?

Fred Zarguna
Fred Zarguna
12 years ago
Reply to  g

And judging by the quality of this “open letter,” they aint too high elsewhere in the CA system, either.

artemis
artemis
12 years ago
Reply to  g

Elitist windbag.

Gregorovich512
Gregorovich512
12 years ago
Reply to  Really?

One can always spot the spoiled “Richard Cranium”. It is usually the one who wants no accountability for their actions and is the first to demean anyone who tries to bust them. – – – Sorry, short stuff, but your logic and rationale already show your IQ is exceedingly lower than the police officers you so phobically hate.

Anto Fenter
Anto Fenter
12 years ago
Reply to  Gregorovich512

And that is already very low.

JDB, Esq.
JDB, Esq.
12 years ago
Reply to  Really?

I hope all leftists are as ignorant as you, and I have a lot more evidence than just you. Take Biden, Pelosi, and 0bama for starters.

don
don
12 years ago
Reply to  Really?

miserable little cuck suckers like you should eat sheet and die.

Anonymous
Anonymous
12 years ago

The police are here because people are breaking the law. Yes, it is good to have a social scene. But people under 21 who get drunk are breaking the law and potentially endangering themselves. Older people are breaking the law if they are drunk in public. So the police have to be here to enforce it. I do think the drinking age should be lowered, since obviously it’s difficult to enforce. But until that day, the police are supposed to be arresting people who break it. I also realize that police have oppressed people. But this isn’t the Jim Crow… Read more »

Andy
Andy
12 years ago

LOL talk about egg on the face. Good luck having another one of these. What is wrong with you people? We never f’d stuff up like tonight.

anonymous
anonymous
12 years ago

The Nexus should be ashamed for running this open letter. Clearly, this social “party scene” entitlement concept was all too well embraced last night at Deltopia. I’m a UCSB alum who lived on DP for three years and what happened is just unbelievable and unacceptable.

Curmudgeon10
Curmudgeon10
12 years ago

And people wonder why college grads are having such a hard time getting work. If I was hiring people, UCSB resumes would go in the trash.

Guetsy McGuest
Guetsy McGuest
12 years ago

I guess this entitled bonehead didn’t feel his/her views were important enough to use his/her name.

Anonymous open letters don’t count idiot. If you really believe in these adolescent views you’d have the courage to attach your identity.

Really?
Really?
12 years ago
Reply to  Guetsy McGuest

Really? How ironic, “guetsy McGuest”.

John Doe
John Doe
12 years ago

I hope this ‘student’ takes a few more english classes.

Arkarter
Arkarter
12 years ago

Whoever wrote this is simply a bad writer. Awkward syntax. Misuse of some terms. And obvious attempts at seeming ever so intellectual. Aren’t there any grownups watching?

Trytoseeitmyway
Trytoseeitmyway
12 years ago
Reply to  Arkarter

My vote for most inane phrase: “lightly channels neo-fascism.”

artemis
artemis
12 years ago

Agree!

LisaT
LisaT
12 years ago

Agree! And I’ll bet the kid doesn’t even know the real definition of neo-fascism.

His Dad
His Dad
12 years ago

My kids a dipshit

Mike
Mike
12 years ago

Wow talk about a spoiled brat liberal POS.

williampenn
williampenn
12 years ago

Translation: we’re young, we have Mommy and Daddy’s credit cards, and we’ll do what we want. Society’s rules don’t apply to us.

Sniper
Sniper
12 years ago

Entitlement is the focus of this poorly written and anonymous letter. I hate to tell you Anonymous, but you are not entitled to anything outside the scope of what your parents are likely paying for, and that is an education at said institutions. While you claim that law enforcement submits 85% of the complaints to justify the alleged harassment, you provide no proof of such facts. Bottom line is that you and your mostly underage friends are violating the drinking laws in the state of California. Upsetting the peace with vandalism, loud music and poor behavior is most likely a… Read more »

Josh
Josh
12 years ago

I look forward to denying this person a job should they ever apply.

cristo
cristo
12 years ago

It’s militantly laughable.

Tyrone_X
12 years ago

Oh hey wow man! Dope never hurt no one’s ability to write a letter, man.

Smarg
Smarg
12 years ago

Folks, this is an example of the “Worst Generation”.

God help us.

They're payin for it, you eat it
They're payin for it, you eat it
12 years ago

You should all be happy, a police state is exactly what all of you are advocating for every single time you express your socialist/communist views

LisaT
LisaT
12 years ago

Yet they think they are so hip, cutting edge and smart. Colleges and universities today are a huge waste of money. There are some good schools out there but not many. Sad state of affairs.

Emily
Emily
12 years ago

First of all- NO ONE should ever be anonymous if they really believe in what they are writing. You are a coward. Your sense of entitlement is egotistical and narcissistic- are you aware of the number of “date rape” incidents that occur in IV? Are you aware of the law enforcement officers that were injured trying to keep you safe last night? Are you aware of the number of parents who were in SB last night with their prospective students- deciding whether or not their sons and daughters belong there? Do you really believe that because you pay tuition and… Read more »

Joe Drager
Joe Drager
12 years ago

What a miserable advertisement for this school of higher learning.

halevi
halevi
12 years ago
Reply to  Joe Drager

UCSB is NOT a school of higher learning. It’s a party school so why should you expect anything more than idiocy to emanate from the students there?

g
g
12 years ago
Reply to  halevi

lay solid odds there are more nobel winners at ucsb than wherever you went. ucsb is a “party school” with some of the most rock solid research programs in the state.

Amazed
Amazed
12 years ago
Reply to  g

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_university_affiliation

You’ll find UCSB down in the “Other” section. Yeah. Keep scrolling. In fact, Ctrl/Cmd-F will probably be the most expedient way of finding it. They’re pretty far down. On the plus side, they did manage to beat out Indiana by 1.

oh behave
oh behave
12 years ago
Reply to  g

Proof that “Noble Prize” has pretty much been rendered meaningless: Obama winning.

jeff
jeff
12 years ago

He has a point regarding police brutality. I predict the bankruptcy of many municipalities in no small part due to police brutality and the resultant lawsuits.

Jake
Jake
12 years ago

This is awesome. UCSB where the “educated”, feminist professor assaults and robs a pro-life activist. The administration writes a non-apologetic letter demonizing Christians. Now students are writing open letters about their right to do whatever they want.

This is a real college education. So much diversity and experience and self-finding. Wow, anonymous, could you help me set up a campus tour for my kids? I want them to have an education just like yours…

Texangal
Texangal
12 years ago

Sounds like a whiny, budding Ted Bundy to me. Hope Eric Holder got wind of Anonymous.

GT
GT
12 years ago

I doubt that a fourth grader would be motivated to write a letter on this topic…if this is an example of the intellect of a UCSB college student,then the billions of dollars that the taxpayers are paying for secondary education are being completely wasted.

g
g
12 years ago

how wonderful! the nexus will now get a taste of the sewage pipe of hate that is the drudge audience.

g2
g2
12 years ago
Reply to  g

You’re the one spewing hate, close your “sewage pipe”…..

nog
nog
12 years ago
Reply to  g

Didn’t anyone ever teach you that painting millions of people with a single, wide brush makes you look ignorant and your point irrelevant?

Jen
Jen
12 years ago
Reply to  g

You must be a student vs a taxpayor!

mamo
mamo
12 years ago
Reply to  g

The only sewage pipes of hate I see come in the form of this borderline pathological letter and your own comment, g.

Lord OTT
Lord OTT
12 years ago
Reply to  g

Gawd you are really stupid.

Attilashrugs
12 years ago
Reply to  g

g: “sewage pipe of hate that is the drudge audience.” PLEASE GIVE EXPLICIT EXAMPLES OF “HATE”, OR shut the F up.

Anto Fenter
Anto Fenter
12 years ago
Reply to  g

Kinda edgy the way you eschew capitalization. You’re not like everybody else!

LisaT
LisaT
12 years ago
Reply to  g

I see you are yet another leftist that doesn’t know that Matt Drudge does NOT write the articles. He only posts links to other news sites and some of the articles are from leftwing news sites. I hope you feel really stupid now because you sure look it. The hate I see every day comes from the left more than 90% of the time.

Phillip
Phillip
12 years ago

“…express yourselves in however you deem sufficient…”

English major, no doubt.

GT
GT
12 years ago

It would appear college and pre-school have become one and the same…

Big Bear
Big Bear
12 years ago
Reply to  GT

No surprise Progs are suggesting mandatory pre-school and college.

GT
GT
12 years ago

The UCSB liberals want big government to control every aspect of everyone else’s lives and at the same time look the other way while they riot, rape and burn the town down????

JDB, Esq.
JDB, Esq.
12 years ago

I think it is really just an attempt at sarcasm and irony, because I hope the author is not wasting his/her opportunity at a UofC education. My son goes to another campus, but actually studies and is getting the grades he needs to get into med school. Since I am paying the tuition, I highly appreciate his efforts.

If the author is being serious, I hope his/her parents don’t find out. ‘Course, they could be dopers, too.

GT
GT
12 years ago

Basically the taxpayer should fund their education and healthcare etc, but how dare we ask them not to riot and burn the town down…liberalism is a mental disorder.

p51d007
p51d007
12 years ago

Hey kids, you want to be treated like adults? Then start acting like ones!

DrChang
DrChang
12 years ago

How much taxpayer subsidised state and federal aid does OP receive?

Jason
Jason
12 years ago

Ah, it’s nice to see that Maude and the Dude’s love – child is all grown up and following in his father’s footsteps.

Verballistic
Verballistic
12 years ago
Reply to  Jason

These irresponsible leftist bastards always want to blame the “neo-fascist” cops, when the problem is actually a bunch of spoiled college brats who have yet to get a taste of life in the real world.

Anonymous Authoe
Anonymous Authoe
12 years ago

You ‘activist’ students have combined with the Hollywood set to ruin Santa Barbara.

If you believe that burning the Bank of America, or rioting last night, are forms of self-expression…you are depraved.

We can only hope a dose of responsibility and maturity will infect you very very soon.

mamo
mamo
12 years ago

As a recent ucsb graduate, this letter is some pretty cringe worthy stuff.

Verballistic
Verballistic
12 years ago

The far-left college punk that wrote this twisted piece of garbage is probably posting his Anonymous blog from the safety of Mommy’s basement, from which he commutes to UCSB.

Just Sayn
Just Sayn
12 years ago
Reply to  Verballistic

You got to fight…. for your right… to PAAAAAARTY. UCSB is now a joke school. We all partied in school to blow off some steam, but we went to school to learn first, party second.
Over the last few months we learned the Profs are a joke and the students are a joke. If I went there I would transfer and not mention it on any resume.

Mark
Mark
12 years ago
Reply to  Verballistic

Anonymous reduces the value of every UCSB degree. Those of us in the real world who pay taxes and hire people discount the credentials of students from party schools. Partiers from party schools are of little interest as employees. The noise ordinances may restrict your freedom, but your freedom to make choices to party are largely in place. All choices have consequences.

Dee
Dee
12 years ago
Reply to  Verballistic

I think you meant Santa Barbara a City College or high school in Van Nuys, (no commute on the latter, just hoping to get accepted at SBCC).

George
George
12 years ago

Well, this should justify the water canons.

Anon is Idiot
Anon is Idiot
12 years ago

Translation of his open letter: “I get to do anything I want, you don’t. You have to pay for my immaturity and I refuse to give it up.” This is a spoiled little mind. I can’t wait for this loser to show up for a job interview.

Anon Is Barely Literate
Anon Is Barely Literate
12 years ago
Reply to  Anon is Idiot

My 8th Grade English teacher would have sent that essay back with more red on it than a slaughterhouse wall. Yet the writer was not just accepted into college, but into the once-prestigious UC system.

You adequately summarized Anon’s 1000 words of drivel.

Oracle Jones
Oracle Jones
12 years ago

to me A spiritual teacher spoke on politics and pointed out that what we see expressed in the world is either a maternal or paternal view of the world. The maternal (Democrats) see all her children as equal and deserving of the same care regardless of whether of not they are good or bad, productive or lazy. The paternal (Republicans) see all as only deserving what they have earned. He pointed out that when these views are in balance society succeeds. The production from the paternal is sufficient to care for the dependents of the maternal. He also stated that… Read more »

Anto Fenter
Anto Fenter
12 years ago
Reply to  Oracle Jones

“The maternal (Democrats) see all her children as equal and deserving of the same care regardless of whether of not they are good or bad, productive or lazy”

Democrats do not love good or productive.

oh behave
oh behave
12 years ago
Reply to  Oracle Jones

Oracle, thanks, I like this description…think I’ll steal it.

Attilashrugs
12 years ago

Cry baby, cry…
Make your mother sigh.
She’s old enough to know better,
so Cry baby Cry.

Dee
Dee
12 years ago

This letter is all me, me, me. Sadly this person will never be a taxpaying citizen. He will be perfectly happy to let the government pay for and raise his spawn because he will have many. It is his right you know, to over drink, defecate and have sex in public. Let someone else clean up the mess. Good job mom and dad!

R
R
12 years ago
Reply to  Dee

I couldn’t agree more. What a pretentious, self-righteous child the writer is. Please.

Happy John
Happy John
12 years ago

Why did the author of this letter not use his/her real name? If they feel so strongly about their position, and it is an open letter, use your real name.

Meanwhile, I’m hiding my identity because recent history has shown the Obama’s followers, the New Brown Shirts, will attack anyone they don’t like. Don’t see any Conservatives causing physical harm except in the defense of the flag, US Constitution, or another person.

Chrome Dynamo
12 years ago

heh. Should be interesting to hear this panty wetter when the student loans come due and he is slinging coffee at starbux for rent $$$ after kollege(sic). Assuming he isn’t living in mommy ad daddy’s basement.

Jack STeve
Jack STeve
12 years ago
Reply to  Chrome Dynamo

Sounds like that’s what you do with your like.

Lotta
Lotta
12 years ago

Self_indulgent twaddle.

Papa Bear
Papa Bear
12 years ago

Whilst? Sounds like it might have been written by a Limey!

pjdjmj
pjdjmj
12 years ago
Reply to  Papa Bear

My thought exactly. “Whilst” should go home and never come back. Many UCSB students are still hippies. Grow up.

Big Bear
Big Bear
12 years ago

Instead of having to blow of steam at others expense, why don’t you energetic children get real jobs, producing something? A hard days work so you don’t have all that pent-up energy to be rowdy brats? Oh, I forgot. Those who proceeded you in the hallowed halls sent those jobs away. The banksters and the regulators. Let some brown people thousands of miles away slave, while we philosopher-kings can sit in our high-rises, billing and taxing productive citizens. It is after all, our right to regulate and control since we spent several years reading books and writing papers between occasional… Read more »

Dave , long since graduated
Dave , long since graduated
12 years ago

“Think of what we pay , . . . and what we are ENTITLED to”
Apparently the author feels that paying tuition for a college education, ” Entitles” you to something other than the education. Interesting.
I assume many others living nearby feel that paying their taxes, entitles them to a safe and peaceful existence, free from others whom feel ” entitled” to do whatever they please. This entitlement is a two way street, if you really believe in entitlement.

fungoking
fungoking
12 years ago

Santa Barbara…..

Looks like Sean has taken up writing now that Psych is done.

Pyramid
Pyramid
12 years ago

I own a small consulting business which does scientific studies for large companies. I hate to say it, but when a resume comes from someone who graduated from UCSB or a couple of other liberally oriented schools it goes right into the trash. I have been very disappointed in the level of education these students receive (lack of hard sciences and math) and the apparent “I’m entitled” attitude of the applicants. Give me someone who went to a “blue collar” school who has had to work their way through their education, and I can give the the opportunity to really… Read more »

Paul
Paul
12 years ago
Reply to  Pyramid

You don’t understand…it’s the “beacon of the educational process”!

Pyramid
Pyramid
12 years ago
Reply to  Paul

It hasn’t always been this way. I know some older UCSB alumni who are very capable.

Gaucho
Gaucho
12 years ago
Reply to  Pyramid

What? The University of Wisc at Madison… or maybe USC (University of Spoiled Children)…I suppose your consulting business has a bunch of CVs that list proud graduates of some City College? That would really impress your clients. I would suggest to you, for the benefit of your business, that to dismiss any applicant based solely on the location of their school would be foolish. When prospecting, one goes to the most likely area to look. That doesn’t mean one might not get lucky and find a gem in an unlikely spot. For example Harvard, Yale, Caltech, MIT are places you… Read more »

Pyramid
Pyramid
12 years ago
Reply to  Gaucho

As I say in my note my experience has been that UCSB doesn’t require much science to give someone a “Science” degree, and the graduates seem to think they are due something. I am not looking for “geniuses”. I am looking for creative and smart people who can work hard, sacrifice for the team and complete an assigned task. I am looking for someone who says, “My work product comes first. I come second.” Or “Work first, then play”. I am only offering this insight because I am an employer. If you don’t want to work with me, that’s fine,… Read more »

BenThere
BenThere
12 years ago
Reply to  Pyramid

So you’re saying you choose work ethic over education? Are you implying that you can teach someone skills, but you can’t teach them principles? Hmm…that’s interesting….

Lunacy
Lunacy
12 years ago

You spoiled young punks need a good ass kicking. Period.

anonymoose
anonymoose
12 years ago

The students would like to invite everyone to visit their campus and give them a taste of their own medicine.

Margaret Sachs
Margaret Sachs
12 years ago

The letter writer describes himself as “educated” but doesn’t know the difference between “that” and “who.”

Jonathan Tutor
Jonathan Tutor
12 years ago

To the Drudge crowd,

Yes, this kid is an entitled brat.

However, it sounds like the police fired tear gas into a crowd for being too loud. I have to side with the students on this one.
The increased militarization of the police forces here is alarming. Obama has created his own military of the DHS.

Gaucho
Gaucho
12 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Tutor

Comparing the modern Deltopia and Halloween to the days of the bank burning and the following crack down by SB Sheriff’s Dept, shows a lack of real understanding. After the bank burning, any group over 8 was a problem, no knock warrants for entry, etc. Paranoia is not a strong enough word for the IV atmosphere. There was no way one would conceive of a party over 100 people. Within a couple of years, things relaxed and the forerunner to Halloween started up. All just a good time party. But as Halloween on DP got bigger and bigger in the… Read more »

answer guy
answer guy
12 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Tutor

Ummmm… they fired teargas because they were defending themselves from being attacked by bricks and glad bottles. Thousands of them. I dunno know about you but if someone throws a bottle or a brick at my head I’d be pretty pissed. Id probably want to defend myself with mite than just tear gas.

hinckleybuzzard
hinckleybuzzard
12 years ago

Anyone who does not yet get the hazards and pitfalls of the “age of entitlement,” need only digest the first few lines of this infantile screech.

Jim
Jim
12 years ago
Lloyd swain
Lloyd swain
12 years ago

Entitlement is correct. This piece is incredible. No way would I hire the author because I can smell trouble right away. Wow! What childish arrogance

artemis
artemis
12 years ago

To the “students’ (using that term lightly). You aren’t “entitled” (using a word from this letter) to SQUAT. You’re supposed to be learning and developing as good citizens, not partying and puking because you think you’re entitled to such crass behavior. People are right to complain, and the police are right to come down hard on you. You are supposed to be setting a higher bar, you know?

Da dude
Da dude
12 years ago

Waaah! Waaaaahhh!

Whine! Snivel! Pout!

Waaaaaah!

Fred Zarguna
Fred Zarguna
12 years ago

I can only hope that this letter was written by a high school student about to embark on his career at some place other than UCSB or SBCC.

A minimum of self-respect requires at least a cursory proof-reading of what a putatively well-educated person posts. In addition to numerous grammatical errors and malapropisms [lobbied, for example, does not mean what you seem to think it means] the style is repetitive and soporific.

Consider having a friend, parent, or teacher peruse and critique your efforts in the future.

HY
HY
12 years ago
Reply to  Fred Zarguna

u sound like a fag

Avs
Avs
12 years ago

You want adults to listen to you and acknowledge that you exsist. All I read was poor little US,we are so put upon. No one cares you party,but when you act like gang bangers and think you have rights,sorry kids,get a life and grow up
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ZevetS
ZevetS
12 years ago

Rambling and redundant. This was written by a student of one of the colleges he is defending as a place of educational excellence?

Davole
Davole
12 years ago

It would be interesting to see how many of those juvenile rebel-rousing so-called students would strive to continue their so-called education at UC Santa Barbara and Santa Barbara City College if their parents suddenly decided to discontinue paying their tuition and lodging expenses.

Gaucho
Gaucho
12 years ago
Reply to  Davole

I would bet UCSB would still be turning away thousands and thousands of potential applicants.

In case you missed it, UCSB is very hard to get into.

Davole
Davole
12 years ago
Reply to  Gaucho

In response your statement that “UCSB is very hard to get into” – What, is there no slack affirmative action entitlement program there?

So-called progressives would consider (no, change that word to “feel”) that such a lack of a get into UCSB card is blatantly RACIST and must be denounced by uncivil rebellion!

gaucho
gaucho
12 years ago
Reply to  Davole

The Bakke case was at the UC system. So supposedly race cannot be taken into account when considering admission. That does not mean that certain demographic measures cannot be used (address, income), as well as looking at first and last names, and if that fails, reading the essay that is also submitted. For a system that supposedly values “diversity” there is a very high percentage of Asians attending all UC campuses. Yet the low numbers of Latinos and African Americans would argue that race preferences are not being used. Twice denied admission to a California medical school despite better grades… Read more »

Davole
Davole
12 years ago
Reply to  gaucho

Thanks for providing the background information.

Somehow I doubt that many if any Asian students would be raising a ruckus in that locale.

UnPoliticallyCorrect
UnPoliticallyCorrect
12 years ago
Reply to  Davole

@ Gaucho – yet you omit the Hopwood vs University of Texas SCOTUS ruling, well after the Bakke ruling, when sumed up states the following: Race/Gender can be considered in admittance into a college or a higher degreed college program, but race/gender cannot be the sole factor in setasides for how many “minorities” will be accepted over more highly qualified “white” applicants. In other words – if you are looking to fill 50 new slots for law school, the school cannot arbitrarily set aside 10 seats for minorities no matter what; they have to put all 50 seats on the… Read more »

Bonehead Isla Vista
Bonehead Isla Vista
12 years ago

AN OPEN LETTER TO ISLA VISTA What makes UC Santa Barbara and Santa Barbara City College students such Boneheads is their enormous sense of entitlement and self-importance. You have relinquished nothing and believe it or not do not have any rights, various or otherwise “to party.” Do not forget the student drinking and smoking that have taken place in Isla Vista over these many years. Do not forget the young people who have died during your revelries. And do not forget the drain on county resources required to police your stunts. I, as the author of this letter, encourage Santa… Read more »

The Pain
The Pain
12 years ago

Why is it that narcissists cannot understand the use of hyphenated words?

Gaucho
Gaucho
12 years ago

There are thousands that attend UCSB. The GPA and SAT scores to enter are very high. So you slur the students when you call them boneheads. There are many that as you observe spend more time getting drunk and or high than studying. But you could go to many large universities public or private and find the same excellence and problems. If you look at the top ten party schools in 2012 & 2013 you dont find UCSB Try West Va, U of Wisc, U of Co, USC, Fla. St, U of Tx, LSU, U of Ga, AZ st. (ASU),… Read more »

IDK
IDK
12 years ago
Reply to  Gaucho

@Gaucho – Damn! You take the fun out of everything. I was happy trolling but you shut everything down for me by pointing out that superior GPAs and SATs trump all. Hey wait, that is the position that pro-deltoid guy was arguing. Anonymous = Gaucho (aren’t you glad to be outted? ) (why are people for or against deltoids anyway?

doc
doc
12 years ago
Reply to  Gaucho

Moral relativism does not justify Animal-House behaviors. High SAT’s/GPA’s are not mutually exclusive of, or justify, illegal, rude or moronic actions…

IDK
IDK
12 years ago

Oh, geez! Now I don’t know what to think. Do I support vagrant students or the gap-toothed townies? They both make good arguments, although somehow reminiscent of one another.

Mr. Polite
Mr. Polite
12 years ago

I, as the author of this reply, encourage you to take some journalism classes before we fall victim to terminal boredom.

Dave
Dave
12 years ago

I hope all these “student” get no further than window monkey at Mickey D’s.

grumpyolguy
grumpyolguy
12 years ago

Grow up dude!
You can’t get drunk and fight, and then throw things at the police who are sent to restore order, without having consequences. You talk about “working hard” and “relieving stress”? You have not even begun the some 43 years of work that you face if you graduate and are fortunate enough to get a job. How’s that for stress? Shut up and deal with it.

Sharky
Sharky
12 years ago
Reply to  grumpyolguy

Relieving stress should include causing extreme stress or cost to innocent people. Kids learn that in kindergarten.

Sharky
Sharky
12 years ago
Reply to  Sharky

Correction: …should NOT include…

Anto Fenter
Anto Fenter
12 years ago

I’d say 20 is the new 12 but that’s not so new anymore. Something is in the air or water.. Used to be adult hormones kicked in in young adulthood. Not anymore. Watch them act like children. They will never have a good life.

Mike Johnson
Mike Johnson
12 years ago

I when to the Facebook Page. The Sheriff was telling people is was illegal to have bands or music that could be hear publicly. What an abomination against the freedom Americans are said to enjoy.

Max Power
Max Power
12 years ago
Reply to  Mike Johnson

Time to repeat English 101

Wabash Sphinx
Wabash Sphinx
12 years ago
Reply to  Mike Johnson

Clearly, the admissions process made some errors the first time around. My suggestion is to send all students home and invite them to re-apply for admission to serious academic programs.

usafmsgt
usafmsgt
12 years ago
Reply to  Wabash Sphinx

Do they really have ‘serious academic programs’ at these so-called colleges? I doubt it.

roagie
roagie
12 years ago

This is what you get after years of giving kids things they don’t earn . This is the kinda crap you end up with when everyone gets a trophy when the show up for a sports program . This is what you get when you never tell a kid he’s WRONG ,or HE LOST . It will only get worse an it will spread .. It’ like an sickness that is contagious .If this kind of education an indoctrination continues much longer the kids will turn on the parents big time .

Parents
Parents
12 years ago
Reply to  roagie

We assume that as society develops technologically that it progresses ethically and morally. Apparently not. Some of these people are 3, 4 or 5 generations from being grounded in any type of faith or religion, or even ethics which teaches them to hold to higher standards of behavior and responsibility. The regression to the mean is anything they can get away with.

ramon
12 years ago
Reply to  roagie

What do you expect from a liberal? Of course he wants everything and gives nothing back to the community. Like his going to school for part of the year is a big deal and he needs a special day to commemorate himself. F’in liberals. World would be a better place and people would respect each other if liberals were gone.

IronGate
IronGate
12 years ago

Students a UCSB haven’t the backbone of their predecessors, who at least burned down a bank. Such burnings have never been more needed than they are today, but these young bed-wetters are out making loud noises and getting high. Perhaps a few keen whacks from a trenchant would help to re-boot whatever’s in their microcephalic skulls.
It would be a good thing to bloody them up and put a hundred or so in intensive care where their pathetic parents can hold a sniveling vigil. There’s nothing like a “whiff of grapeshot” to put down such disturbances.

Parents
Parents
12 years ago
Reply to  IronGate

Advocating the commission of felonies by students, who if caught would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, is cruel advice. No parent wants their child’s future to be compromised by a criminal record. People could be hurt or killed. Who could live with themselves for participating in that type of destructiveness?

IronGate
IronGate
12 years ago
Reply to  Parents

Ah, the leaf doesn’t fall from the tree. The parental logic is weak as their offspring. They seen not to realize that these microcephalic children are already committing felonies, but they care not.

doc
doc
12 years ago
Reply to  Parents

If they were caught, mommy and daddy’s attorney would be called-in to wipe their butts…

Sarge
Sarge
12 years ago
Reply to  Parents

Advocating mob violence is also a felony. “IronGate” may have been a prophetic choice of handle.

IronGate
IronGate
12 years ago
Reply to  Sarge

Where do you see “advocating mob violence? Reading comprehension a problem? Au contraire, I am condemning it. The “Whiff of Grapeshot” is about putting down mob violence.

IronGate
IronGate
12 years ago
Reply to  IronGate

Now I’m worried about misinterpretation of my comments.
My comment was made in a jocular sense and in no way advocating of mob violence. As one can see in the above referenced comment, it calls for methods of putting down violence — and, again in a jocular sense. See 5:26 above. The methods are Napolionic.

g
g
12 years ago
Reply to  IronGate

irongate = troll

Patrick
Patrick
12 years ago

Yawn, a sophomoric under-attempt at intelligence gets published. I’ve heard better logic from my 5-year old. Move along kid. Come back when you can play in the real world.

IV needs an IV
IV needs an IV
12 years ago

In response to:
“Think of what we pay, what we receive and what we are entitled to.”

Entitlement is a principle of a fascist state of mind; seems to me the brutality and lopsidedness of the evil enforcement that offends this child will be the same one that gives, procures and protects all the entitlements they deserve.

Hard work is much more gratifying; going out and attaining something is a struggle. The entitlements are the easy way out.

Barnacle Bill
Barnacle Bill
12 years ago

Good Lord, I am laughing out loud at how pathetic this letter writer it.

I am pleading with you, as the author of this letter, pyrrhic victory, they can do only to us what we let them do, deserve a seat at the table, brightest minds in the zip code….LOL

This letter is a pathetic attempt at adulthood and simply reeks of misplaced self-importance, entitlement and self-absorption.

You need an introduction to the real world, Junior, and right quick.

somebody
somebody
12 years ago

It’s simple. No non-students who make their home in IV want to think they might be caught in a riot if they happen to go out on the wrong night. They also don’t want to see their hard earned taxes pay for the resultant and sometimes extensive damage to public and private property. The damage they see will make them care less about any abuse by the police against the revelers. It’s basic logic – what’s so hard to understand?

Mitch
Mitch
12 years ago

What a load of gobbledygook. Let’s just get to it. Young adults like to party. Young adults have hormones raging. Result: Deltopia. That’s all it is. Nothing more. Nothing less. Next.

doc
doc
12 years ago
Reply to  Mitch

…and young adults are selfish, spoiled and opinionated…

joe 812
joe 812
12 years ago

Who knew Utopia was in a police state…

Jon Carry
Jon Carry
12 years ago

I have wondered how idiot Obama was not just elected, but then re-elected. Now I know. College students like those at UCSB who are more concerned with the cultural ‘party scene’ than basic education. This ‘letter’ is symbolic of a lost generation of narcissistic, ignorant arrogant fools. Just like their president.

Fins
Fins
12 years ago

This letter is a howler! “Power to the people!” “No Justice no Peace!” Let’s consider “what WE pay.” You pay nothing. Your parents pay. Or if you have a scholarship, then a donor pays. Or the Tax Payer foots the overhead and tuition. Or you took out a low interest loan on part of one trillion of outstanding student debt, which the Taxpayers will be stuck with when you default 20 years from now. In return for all this largess, YOUR OBLIGATION is to learn to be a responsible citizen in 4 years (not 5 or 6) and join the… Read more »

Rick
Rick
12 years ago

This letter was obviously written by someone at The Onion who, for some reason, wants to make UCSB students look like idiots. The neo fascist militaristic police force is unlikely to have such a clever writer.

usafmsgt
usafmsgt
12 years ago
Reply to  Rick

“This is an open letter from an author named “Isla Vista.” I love how the author is completely anonymous. I wonder what grade his leftist ‘English’ professor gave him/her/them/it?

Allan
Allan
12 years ago

Wow, a long letter, and a waste of time. It should have been summed up in one sentence, “Dudes, leave us alone we want to party!”

I particularly like the line, “Think of… what we are entitled to.” Spoken like a true spoiled brat Liberal.

Vlad
Vlad
12 years ago

Ha ha, California, the retarded clown child of the liberal left.

John Campbell
John Campbell
12 years ago

This is a truly sad letter. The one thing that this alleged student didn’t mention, the one thing that he/she left out and didn’t care to cover, beyond not using their real name as at lest some moniker of integrity, is the fact that these students are temporary residents. They will leave when school is out and they will leave permanently once school is completed. Yet, they will demand that those who live there and pay the taxes should suffer whatever these unruly students leave behind permanently. Not one thought given to the people who are forced to endure yet… Read more »

Mandy
Mandy
12 years ago
Reply to  John Campbell

“Because of this, students should think of creative ways to out-maneuver law enforcement in this game of cat and mouse. If Deltopia gets ruined this weekend then have it again the following weekend, or better yet, have Floatopia. I assure you, the urge to rage will long outlast the budget of Santa Barbara to keep sending in large numbers of police.”

Thinking like a child…

Sharky
Sharky
12 years ago

Brigham Young University is consistently ranked as the #1 Sober School. Recently it was ranked by Business Insider Magazine the #1 college where students are “Hot and Smart.” http://www.businessinsider.com/colleges-students-both-hot-and-smart-2014-3 Seriously, when it’s time to look for a job, employers do take note. “Philip Babcock, assistant professor of economics at University of California, Santa Barbara, who recently issued a report on the decline in studying time among college students with Mindy Marks, an economist at the University of California, Riverside: Full-time college students in the 1960s studied 24 hours per week, on average, whereas their counterparts today study 14 hours per… Read more »

Paul Lyons
Paul Lyons
12 years ago

The only thing this letter proves is what we’ve always known….that American college kids are, for the most part, under-educated, over-opinionated, ignorant lemmings.

IronGate
IronGate
12 years ago

I urge people to visit the UCSB campus after the dust settles and take a good look at the students who are stumbling about. I, for one, detect that a huge decline in the gene pool has taken place. Perhaps it is due to poor nutrition or inbreeding, but gone is that university filled with beautiful girls and handsome young men. It is the clearest sign of the “Decline of the West.” A great civilization can’t continue with a population of homely weaklings unsuited for struggle. A further note: With all the phone cameras in use, surely there must be… Read more »

Dan
Dan
12 years ago

The “author” of this horribly written piece (of crap) needs some mental Phillips of Magnesia and a few doses of verbal Imodium. Just think…this is what is going to be running our Country in 30 years. God help us all.

dc
dc
12 years ago

The greatest privilege in the world is an education. Not a “right”. No excuse for this animal childish behavior. Grow up kids. People all over the world would give everything they own to be able to take these children’s place. Expel all who were involved or caught.

BenThere
BenThere
12 years ago
Reply to  dc

I had a college professor who once said, “An education is the most expensive item that one is willing to pay for and not receive.”

Sherry
Sherry
12 years ago

The only thing you have a right to as a student of UCSB or the local junior college there is an education and to be assured of safety while you are going to school. You don’t have a right to party, especially since most of you are not even old enough to drink. Drinking alcohol, smoking pot and taking other drugs while in school is not really what one would consider a “right,” but rather a “bad habit.” You may be able to behave as badly as you wish out in Isla Vista, however you may find it difficult to… Read more »

Matt
Matt
12 years ago

Wow. Completely incoherent jackassery.

Bawwing students make me lel
Bawwing students make me lel
12 years ago

>They will eventually leave, but it is the Isla Vista community that ultimately pays the price for their actions
>They will eventually leave, but it is the Santa Barbara County community that ultimately pays the price for their actions

See what I did there? I pointed out the irony of a transient population blaming a transient population for it’s problems. At the end of the day, all you students are just passing through, and nobody gives a shit what you want, or your pathetic sense of entitlement.

FUBO
FUBO
12 years ago

Perfect. Please run for President.

mirted
mirted
12 years ago

To say nothing of self-centered egoism. “We” paid thousands of dollars? Perhaps a few of you, but mostly someone else did, along with the taxpayers who will pick up the cost of those loans that default and provide the subsidies you qualify for. Giving up your “rights”, “free speech”, etc: Oh yes, you proudly oppose any other viewpoints than those of your indoctrinators and use code words to marginalize any other viewpoint, especially those that have factual support…I was young and in college once, but in or out of college, I also put my fun ahead of courtesy to others.… Read more »

Coach Barry
12 years ago
Reply to  mirted

That’s a big one mirted and the first thing that hit me…”WE” paid tens of thousands of dollars…if loans , you haven’t paid them yet…most likely “opm” other people’s money who did work for it…this young indulged moron is definitely a future congressional candidate or even president!

Hockeyfan
Hockeyfan
12 years ago

This must be fake. No one could be this dumb, could they?

Could they?

I mean, yeah, if they were suffering from some sort of premature dementia or some sort of other mental disorder. Maybe the partying has caused brain damage. Or perhaps they cheated on the entrance exams.

Or maybe they are just dumb.

I weep for the millennial generation.

spiv
12 years ago
Reply to  Hockeyfan

Piss off and go get drunk at a hockey game…

dieter
dieter
12 years ago
Reply to  spiv

is that your invitation to him to be your running bud?

dieter
dieter
12 years ago
Reply to  spiv

are you inviting him to be your running buddy?

docwill
docwill
12 years ago
Reply to  spiv

Yes, erudition consistent with “high GPA’s.” Gotta “fight for your right to party!”

Speedstan
Speedstan
12 years ago
Reply to  spiv

The type of comments from those trying to defend these arrogant narcissists are quite telling. We’re not dealing with the best and brightest here. We’re dealing with out-of-control children.

Joe
Joe
12 years ago

This is terribly written. It seems like something a high school sophomore has written while consulting a thesaurus every sentence. More problematically, the argument is incoherent. As a result, this is a lot of words for zero effect.

Always remember–brevity is the soul of wit. Also:

“Write as you speak. Don’t use formal, high-sounding words that you wouldn’t think of using in conversation. Remember that the finest English in the world is simple English.” Lillian Eichler Watson, The Bantam Book of Correct Letter Writing 13 (1958).

WagTheDog
WagTheDog
12 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Indeed. Whilst I was reading it, I got a throbbing headache.

james w boyd
james w boyd
12 years ago

I am serious. A few bursts of live machine-gun fire, with certain repeat if needed, would stop this havoc caused by these braindead, pot-soaked, degenerate idiots called students.

Jane Eric
Jane Eric
12 years ago

If this is the best “the brightest minds” UCSB has to offer than education truly is fubared.

Brian A...
Brian A...
12 years ago
Reply to  Jane Eric

CSU Chico, (Chico State in my day) had the same issues. They pretty much dropped all creative spring parties (Pioneer Days). Too many (stupid) people were coming from outside the area…Destroying what was meant to be a release of stress from hard studies. Go to UC Davis or Berkeley for pre med and serious study. Go to UC Santa Cruz to be one with the universe. UCSB…Be careful in what you ask for, when it comes interview time…

Brian A...
Brian A...
12 years ago
Reply to  Brian A...

PS Food doesn’t come from McDonalds or a store…You’ll find out soon enough what real life looks like…

San Day
San Day
12 years ago

What a bunch of ivory tower B.S. No clue about the real world.

Chuck U Farley
Chuck U Farley
12 years ago

Exactly what are you ‘entitled to’ in Doltopia?

In the immortal words of Blutto Blutarski, “Seven years of college down the drain”.

jnsesq
jnsesq
12 years ago

“a social scene that has evolved over the years.”

“Evolved?” Like Detroit has “evolved”? What juvenile self-entitlement! Grow up, “young adults.”

dieter
dieter
12 years ago

Sounds like a self important snot to me…grow up kid, there’s a real world out there with real obstacles, real stresses, real requirements and, hard to believe, real achievements.

Robert Woodburn
Robert Woodburn
12 years ago
Reply to  dieter

Author is future candidate for Harvard law review

ArrMatey
ArrMatey
12 years ago

And? Finish the sentence. What is the conclusion to be reached after reading the words “author is future candidate for Harvard law review”?

Murrica
Murrica
12 years ago
Reply to  ArrMatey

The conclusion is deliberately omitted to allow the rest of the Drudge folks to make their own inferences to Obama, multiculturalism’s failings, and most other bogeymen in the Tea Party closet. Not that they need any accommodation, mind you…

BenThere
BenThere
12 years ago

That says a lot about the Harvard Law review.

Speedstan
Speedstan
12 years ago

In his wildest dreams.

echo sierra
echo sierra
12 years ago

Typical entitled brats. “The world owes me”. Kids, you’ll be treated in response to your actions. Act like an A-hole and be treated like an A-hole. But you’ll find that out soon in enough in the real world when you look for a job with assault and resisting arrest on your record.

Ron Pavellas
12 years ago

Self-indulgent and illiterate.
Ron P.
UC Berkeley, 1963

todd capps
todd capps
12 years ago
Reply to  Ron Pavellas

Thanks, Ron. You nailed it. I might also add “cowardly” by way of anonymous.

Todd

UCSB, 1989

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