My conversion was largely circumstantial. Might I have become Buddhist had fate knocked differently? Actually, I read about Buddhism in high school and found it interesting, but I didn’t meet any Buddhists then. I did, however, meet Muslims at the natural foods store where I worked during high school.
They were among the kindest, most loving and sane people I had ever met. They related, moreover, to the psychedelic drug experiments I had been conducting, although they insisted that their spiritual path could cultivate an even greater awe and without the chemicals. “Cool,” I thought to myself.
Never were they preachy. I was sufficiently curious and always had questions for them. My shifts at the store became occasions rich with philosophical discussions about the meaning of life, God, relationships and personal transformation. It turned out that God wasn’t a bearded man in the sky. Nor was “He” male for that matter.
God became more than a dogmatic myth. It was a verb, a presence — entirely me and not me, simultaneously. God was the ultimate paradox, profoundly fascinating, but Islam and this “God” figure were not only captivating conceptually. My newfound spiritual path also penetrated my heart and awakened something that had been there all along. At eighteen, I had stumbled upon a holistic system of personal transformation — a religion — that made sense.
Paul Simon wrote, “After changes upon changes we are more or less the same,” and his words ring true for me. No one else in my family has converted to Islam, but since embracing the faith, I feel closer to my family than ever. The divine force that flows through every atom, every soul and every particle of light — a force that I call God — has inspired a pluralism in me, not an exclusivist ideology. Islam has granted me problem-solving tools to understand myself and to relate to nature and other humans. Paul Simon is right, because I am still an extension of who I was. Islam simply gave me a new framework.
Undoubtedly, my reflections on the transformative power of religion could apply to any number of systems that encourage personal development: Christianity, yoga, Alcoholics Anonymous, an aerobics class. Although the ten years since I converted have certainly given me occasion to identify things that Islam uniquely offers, that does not preclude the existence of other effective avenues for personal growth. Plus, there’s great social value in treating one another with respect and magnanimity despite religious diversity.
I’ve discussed the pluralistic worldview that Islam encourages for me and the great effect it has for me psychologically, and I might even have spoken of “tolerance.” However, tolerance is a poor word choice if we really mean “understanding.” Let’s think about it. What does it mean to “tolerate” something? We tolerate bad weather, slow lines at the grocery store and messy roommates, but these are things that are unpleasant should we give our attention to them. With religion, however, is it really tolerance we desire? Do we want to tolerate our Muslim neighbor, or would we rather get to know her and judge her according to her character and individuality, rather than the myopic lens through which we’ve decided to see her? Therefore, I suggest we avoid religious tolerance at all costs. Instead we should focus on understanding.
Anyone who has developed a skill knows quite well that learning is often challenging, and so is religion. This does not mean, however, that we shouldn’t try to understand, especially because America has a history of scapegoating: we’ve done it to African Americans, Japanese, Jews and to too many other groups to mention. Now it’s Muslims. Are there Muslim terrorists? Sure, but what about the vast majority of Muslims who are not? Shall we lump them into the same pile of xenophobic rubbish?
According to some polls, many Americans have never met a Muslim. No wonder people live in fear! I understand. I used to fear asparagus; then I gave it a chance. I don’t know how much asparagus you’ll find on campus these days, but there are plenty of Muslims. I’m not suggesting you eat them with hollandaise sauce, but do know that the Muslim Student Association holds weekly meetings every Wednesday from 5 to 7 p.m. in the Middle East Resource Center in the SRB, and all are welcome. We spend each meeting discussing a social, political or religious topic, followed by informal socializing.
So, do I scare you? I certainly don’t want to scare you. But, if you are scared of Muslims, let’s work together. You do a better job of taking responsibility for your prejudice, and I’ll do a better job of encouraging my fellow Muslims to actively participate in society and demonstrate that they’re good citizens and good people. I’ll also encourage my fellow academics (many of whom are also Muslim) to appeal to larger audiences, beyond the academy.
We must confront our fears unless we desire to regress as a society by recreating hideous practices that have marred this great nation in its sometimes dark history. In the process, remember your privileged life in America. Appreciate it. Travel. Meet Muslims. Buy asparagus when it’s on sale. Whether you embrace Islam or Humanism, or any other method for cultivating love and personal growth, I look forward to extending my hand and heart to you in the process, so that we might learn from each other.
Actually, the reason so many fear Muslims is this:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
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Oh, yes, and let’s not forget this:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm
I just hope that you are not someone from this university. Otherwise, institutionalized education has failed.
Elliot mentions diversity and tolerance and implies they are part and parcel of Islam.
Words mean nothing coming from the likes of Elliot. This is the reality:
http://www.rightsidenews.com/201003088962/life-and-science/culture-wars/islam-is-incompatible-with-diversity.html
A religion which preach hate, murder of who do not believe in a pagan god like islam pagan moon god, cannot be a religion of love and compassion.
IF YOU HAVE EMBRACED SUCH RELIGION,YOU HAD TO BE; BRAIN WASHED AND THEREFORE, BRAION DEAD
You, sir, are the one who is brain dead. Please do not spew incorrect vile shit about a topic you clearly know nothing about. Muslims do not worship the moon; Allah literally means “god” in arabic. Muslims worship the same Abrahamic deity as Christians and Jews. Do they worship a pagan god? People did indeed worship the moon before Islam came around (as well as other things). This was happening for thousands of years and, of course, this affected the architecture, culture, and designs of the region. So now you think that Muslims worship the moon because the moon and… Read more »
You mean “a religion that preaches hate.” Man I can’t even began to tell you the “brain dead” people’s contribution to this world before you and your ancestors even knew what school or university was. How is that for brain dead? Here is a start for you, they seem to be teaching this in an undergrad class at UCSB. Maybe you can come by Hist 46 and learn a thing or two. Please google the folks below. Oh by the way, thank you for motivating us folks who actually took the time to research because we can clearly see what… Read more »
You mean “a religion that preaches hate.” Man I can’t even began to tell you the “brain dead” people’s contribution to this world before you and your ancestors even knew what school or university was. How is that for brain dead? Here is a start for you, they seem to be teaching this in an undergrad class at UCSB. Maybe you can come by Hist 46 and learn a thing or two. Please google the folks below. Oh by the way, thank you for motivating us folks who actually took the time to research because we can clearly see what… Read more »
Wonderful article Elliott! Thank you for sharing your broad-minded vision of Islam with the rest of us.
As the comments above have exemplified, hate-mongers are found in every religion as well as outside of them, and, as Elliott has exemplified, compassionate humanists are found in every religion as well as outside of them.
When speaking the truth is considered hate is when hatred rules the day.
Speaking of hatred:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm
Arafat,
If you’re interested in the truth, why don’t you take up Elliott’s offer to come and meet the Muslim community of Santa Barbara and see if your views hold weight for all Muslims?
Yes, Arafat. Why don’t you do that? Goleta Valley Community Center, Friday’s at 1:10pm. No one is hiding here right? It’s very easy to misinterpret something but much more difficult to thoroughly understand it.
Arafat, that article was pretty boring and thoughtless.
By the way, you misspelled my name in your post.
And if you’re unconvinced that diversity is part of Islam, look around. Muslim-majority countries range from Morocco to Nigeria to Pakistan to Indonesia.
Elliot writes, “And if you’re unconvinced that diversity is part of Islam, look around. Muslim-majority countries range from Morocco to Nigeria to Pakistan to Indonesia.” Eliot missed the whole point of the article. The article focused on the FACT that wherever Islam has invaded and conquered land it has either slowly or quickly eliminated the native population resulting in that conquered land becoming more Muslim and less diverse. The article utilized Saudi Arabia as an example. Before Mohammed’s birth what is now known as Sauid Arabia was home to Assyrians, Zoroastrians, Jews, Chaldeans, etc…Today Saudi Arabia is 100% Muslim. There… Read more »
Elliott,
Thanks for sharing a little about your life story, Islam, and struggle with asparagus. I hope you don’t take the comments on this page too seriously–there are some nasty ones. It takes a lot of guts to put yourself out there and try to explain something that is so personal and spiritual like conversion. I admire you.
Basically what Arafat and Nostradamus are trying to say is that your article is AWESOME and they wish they knew where to read more of what real Muslims write about Islam.
Thanks for writing!
Thanks Ascetic Bill. Interesting interpretation, as well. Not sure I would have come to that conclusion on my own, so I appreciate the nudge.
I love you Bill in a brotherly fashion way.
Excellent article Elliott, congrats. Some of comments show how far some people among us from `religious tolerance
Excellent article Elliott, congrats. Some of comments show how far some people among us from `religious tolerance’ let alone understanding.
Elliott,
What a beautiful piece on your personal journey to finding a place that brought you peace and comfort. Thank you for sharing it and for your offer to our community to come and learn about your religion.
Yo nostradamos,
I fucking worship the moon and it is part of a different religion than the islamic faith. Fuck you for using my pagan lord as the centerpiece of a religious that is not my own. Get your facts straight and take some religious studies courses you uneducated piece of shit.
An excellent article. Truly what we need is understanding more than tolerance.
Elliott has been studying religion for many years, and was once a student in our program at Humboldt State. We are proud of his achievements and the subtlety of his mind. This article gives but a glimpse of his learning, his clarity, his critical intellect. After 30 years of teaching, and after more than 40 years of studying religion, I continue to be deeply troubled by the vitriolic, uninformed responses such as some of those that we read here. But those of us who understand that disciplined study and intellectual balance can lead us to a better place must continue… Read more »
It’s interesting to note that the comments that differ with mine do not address the Qur’anic passages I have included, but instead either attack my character or white-wash over the issues I’ve raised. In the most recent comment written William writes, “In Elliott’s brief spiritual autobiography it is clear that exposure to the profound ideas contained in religious tradition can truly transform lives for the better.” That’s nice, William, even if it is anything but true. How does this betterment of life pertain to this news story from today. Are the lives referenced in this article made better by their… Read more »
“And thou wilt find them [the Jews] greediest of mankind for life and (greedier) than the idolaters. (Each) one of them would like to be allowed to live a thousand years. And to live (a thousand years) would be no means remove him from the doom. Allah is Seer of what they do.” 2:96 “How shall Allah guide a people who disbelieved after their belief and (after) they bore witness that the messenger is true and after clear proofs (of Allah’s Sovereignty) had come unto them. And Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. As for such, their guerdon is that on… Read more »
Elliot, I attended the panel on Islamophobia at Humboldt State today and asked Bill for the link to your article at it’s conclusion. I just wanted to write to say thank you for posting this and trying to educate people about the many different facets of your faith and Islam in general. I am not a religious person, but I understand that religion is a very large part of our world. Since 9/11 I have been amazed by the number of non-Muslims who were suddenly experts in all areas of Islam and its religious texts. I will share your article… Read more »
I misspelled your name too. Sorry Elliott.
Joe, What a brilliant post. Here are some more Qur’anic verses for Eliot to think about. 1) Quran (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.” 2) Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.” 3) Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” 4) Quran (8:39) – “And fight… Read more »
I do not wish to start a religious war here, and I am certainly no scholar, but I have always been intrigued by how those that claim Islam to be a violent religion can reconcile that with this passage: Deuteronomy 13:6-10 6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7 Namely, of the gods of the people which… Read more »
Jason,
Since you appear interested in comparing and contrasting the following article was written with you in mind. Maybe this article will help free you from continuing to be a Muslim apologist for the rest of your life.
thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Jesus-Muhammad.htm
I am not at all interested in comparing and contrasting, and I certainly do not have the time to engage in a drawn out discussion with someone as hateful and closed-minded as you – I am busy with the end of a semester. I was simply pointing out that there are passages in the Bible that could also be used to justify violence and wondering how that is reconciled by those that attack Islam. That said, I read the “article” on the link you posted, and I have two comments. First, I do not see how it is useful to… Read more »
Jason writes, “Second, neither you, nor the article you sent me a link to, address the specific passage I mentioned, so you have simply dodged the issue to provide yet another link to what appears to be the only website you have ever spent any considerable amount of time on.”
Jason, the Muslim apologist, wants an answer. So, here it is (not that I expect he will be open to it).
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/the_political_violence_of_the.html
And,
http://www.meforum.org/2159/are-judaism-and-christianity-as-violent-as-islam
Jason, Quoting a bible verse adds nothing to this discussion. I am not making a case that Christianity, or any other religion is better than Islam. More importantly, a bad idea (i.e. Islam) is not justified by another bad idea (i.e. Christianity). I am commenting on the topic at hand, which is Islam. Other religions have no relevance here. By the way, pointing out the bigotry in an ideology, Islam in this case, is not bigotry. The person who makes excuses for it is by far a bigger bigot, and you seem to have been making a lot of excuses… Read more »
Joe, I think you missed my point. I am not arguing that Christianity is just as bad as Islam. That would be pointless, as well as problematic. To say that Christianity is just as bad as Islam is to say that Islam is inherently bad, and I am certainly not saying that. What I am saying is that Christianity has passages that could be (and are) construed as instruction to commit violent acts, and that if one is willing to not judge Christians because of a possible interpretation of passages, then one must also make the same true for Muslims.… Read more »
The argument that the passages that I quoted are subject to different interpretations doesn’t fly. Languages have rules, and even if there is some flexibility in interpretation, this flexibility is not infinite. You can’t claim that the Koranic allowance for wife-beating really is an instruction to give her flowers. The passage here has a plain meaning. Having said this, I was not passing judgment on the moral character of all Muslims. People are complex, and have many influences on their thinking. I do not buy into the whole “all Muslims are terrorists and let’s not have them build mosques” stupidity.… Read more »
For anyone interested, an article on diversity.
http://carnegie.org/publications/search-publications/pub/177/
Here’s an accurate article on Islam and diversity.
http://www.rightsidenews.com/201003088962/life-and-science/culture-wars/islam-is-incompatible-with-diversity.html
Go into a mosque and tell the people there that you think its sexist that men and women should be praying apart. Tell them that while the Quran might be inspired by God, it has human authors and has mistakes in it. Go there and tell them these or any other things, and see how “diverse” Islam is. I bet if you went to convert with these caveats you’ll be kicked out very fast.
To all the Islam sympathizers, I want to say that not everyone out there is so fair minded and tolerant as you are.
Obviously not everyone is “fair-minded” and “tolerant”. I wouldn’t have written this article if that was the case.
Secondly, your comments seem to be based on ignorance. I suggest visiting a variety of mosques and asking questions to a variety of Muslims. You’ll probably get a variety of answers.
Ideally, access to larger amounts of data will lead to more informed positions.
Eliott, It’s ironic that you are accusing others of omissions you are guilty of. You accuse others of not doing adequate research into Islam when it is you who is acting on your “gut feeling” while those you accuse of not doing adequate work have actually done the objective work required to form accurate opinions on Islam. By the way, Elliot, how do you explain away the 16,000+ terrorist attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Allah recorded since 9/11/01. Many of these attacks –like the beheading of Daniel Pearl– were committed by devout Muslims who read from the… Read more »
Elliott,
If you are so “fair-minded” and “tolerant”, why did you convert to a religion whose god wrote such an intolerant book as the Quran?
I told you why I converted. It’s in the article.
Your question, however, is flawed by assuming the Qur’an is an intolerant book. But if you mean that the Qur’an is intolerant toward hypocrisy, crime and injustice, then I agree. Sometimes intolerance is the best policy.
US law is also intolerant: towards rapists and child molesters. Good thing, too.
Arafat, your posts lack nuance and even the inklings of critical reflection as well as correct spelling. So, I will keep my response brief. Consider the following a condensed reply to all your posts… 1) You write about Muslims as if they all believe the same thing and act in the same way. Obviously that’s silly. Do all Americans believe exactly the same thing and behave in the same way? Of course not. Why would Muslims? 2) 16,000? If you’re getting your figures from “jihadwatch.com”, “ihatemuslims.com”, etc. you’re gonna have do better if you want me to take you seriously.… Read more »
BRAVO!!!
I feel like a celebrity knowing that one of those health food store friends was me! Funny how the law of attraction works. I really cared not what you chose but was happy to have the conversations!
Love to you Dear One ~ Widad
Eliutt tells us all about how “tolerant” Islam is and this only makes me wonder how it came about that this poor soul came to believe that up is down, left is right, and night is day.
Are the following links examples of “tolerance” in your topsy-turvy world, Eliutt?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUVxxjuK-JI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7ympF_grrA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qxjocm5fCc
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/01/hamas-in-their-own-voices.html
Nothing like a bigot citing bigots.
Elliut is a true logician at heart. (NOT!) He accuses me of lacking “nuance” and being bereft of any “critical reflection” and then goes on to write the following: “ You write about Muslims as if they all believe the same thing and act in the same way. Obviously that’s silly. Do all Americans believe exactly the same thing and behave in the same way? Of course not. Why would Muslims?” So the logician, Eliot, tells me I lack “nuance” and then he compares Muslims everywhere to Americans. Let me clarify something for you, Eliott. America is the land of… Read more »
Have you met many Muslims? It seems like you haven’t. I hope you join us at our MSA meetings next quarter. Many of us would enjoy speaking with you in person.
Elliot, It’s obvious you do not get it. You are unable to intelligently or rationally respond to the many points I (and others) have raised about Islam being an intolerant, hate-filled religion. Despite this you continue to welcome me to your little get-togethers as if going to a cocktail party with a bunch of maniacs who will be on their best behavior will trick me into believing Islam is not what it is. I know Islam better than your biased, brainwashed, subjective brain does, Eliott. The last thing I ever want for myself is to be a brainwashed fool like… Read more »
Arafat, First of all, let me say that I’m not a Muslim and don’t ever plan to be. Now that you don’t have a biased, prejudice view of me, I’m hoping you will listen. What you wrote is honestly some of the most ignorant, close-minded gibberish I’ve ever read. You rely on extremely biased sources and I am not writing this to get you to change your mind because I know people like you, with an extremely closed-mind, will never do such a thing. I don’t want to waste too much time on someone who doesn’t listen to opinions (or… Read more »
I’d say more along the lines of “not taking personal offense”–but opinions like these are hard to “ignore” because they are, sadly, quite pervasive.
I like this thought. I visited your website for the first time and simply been your fan. Continue to keep posting as I am planning to come to read it every day!!
I thought this was a interesting and refreshingly simple article. I find it nice to hear from the side that is too often portrayed in an unfavorable way. There is simply too much hate propaganda going on. I find it ironic that the very people who accuse this faith of being intolerant and barbaric sink to unbelievably low levels of “honor” when doling out their criticisms– more often demonstrating their own intolerant barbarism than anyone else’s. I don’t know why I’m posting. I have finals to attend to. I would think some of the leading posters in this discussion would… Read more »
Zach,
It’s awfully convenient to dismiss my sources as bigoted, factless silliness without specifying where they are incorrect.
I’ll make it easy for you. Specifically, what is incorrect in the following article:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm
Greetings of peace to Christian and Muslims, As for those that write under “Arafat” or “Zack”, before they open their mouth, I know they’re the sons of the accursed Zionists. These people are cursed by God himself because they will rejoice in anything bad that falls upon all the nations of the world, not just Muslims. They are the ones, because their hearts are perpetually filled with excessive pride, will always blatantly showcase their enmity for Muslims. The one reasons for all this hatred of these Zionists is this: God’s favor moved away from their kind towards Islam and the… Read more »